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FGM TELLS THE SAME LIES

Females Happy With FGM

To A Man: You sound like this woman.

“I have been circumcised, and my daughters will be circumcised too. This is our custom and tradition!”

Sudanese Woman: “Circumcision Is Our Tradition”

See how one woman responded to DW’s Jaafar Abdul Karim in the Sudan where 88% of women are genitally mutilated.

Here’s a woman who had it done to her, seems pretty happy:

https://www.facebook.com/dw.stories/videos/1349429331835468/

“Many women claim that their lives have not been affected by FGM. But that’s not the point,” she said. “We all were minors and unable to make our own choice. How can anyone say that her sexual life couldn’t have been more pleasurable? Nobody can give me that guarantee and that’s what frustrates me.”

Believe me I understand.  LMAO

https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2018/mar/06/study-reveals-fgm-india-female-genital-mutilation

To woman:

Would YOU like to be circumcised? You know women from Sudan much prefer to be cleaner and healthier too! Why are you not given the ‘benefits’? Shouldn’t your parents have the same rights as Sudanese parents to make medical decisions for their children. Their children are too young to talk. Of course they would choose it (I FUCKING DIDNT AND NEVER COULD BE SO STUPID!) and it’s far less painful kids don’t feel pain they won’t remember it and neither will Cosby’s victims.

Diamond Bennah
with
Fuambai Sia Ahmadu
Celebrated the new year with my beloved mentor, the woman who challenges me to be as unapologetically African as possible, Dr. Fuambai Ahmadu (medical anthropologist/pro-female circumcision activist). Being able to stand firmly in one’s truth is always a commendable trait, even if it means going against the grain in Western academia. While everyone else frames African women as children or victims of our own cultures in need of Western saving, she restores the agency taken away from African women. She teaches that African women are just as capable as Western women to come to their own conclusions about what they want, no matter how beneficial or risky. This includes the choice to be circumcised for cosmetic/cultural reasons, which should be available to women. I reached out to her as a junior at Penn State to invite her to give a lecture, but despite the fact that college is a place for erudite people to challenge their biases and question things, the school which was supported by anti-FGM activists shut every one of my plans down. As they put it, “What she’s teaching is problematic.” I never understood how Ben Shapiro and white-supremacist Richard Spencer were able to get funding to lecture at Penn State, but Ahmadu’s presence was problematic. Regardless, we’ve been friends ever since. I’m SOOO honored to have been her research assistant this year and looking forward to more opportunities for us in the future! #WomenEmpowerment #AfricanWomen

Lisa Seuferer which is why the original post didn’t have anything about children. I see the word “women” in my post but what do you see? You’re just reiterating my points from my post in a different manner. By the way, cosmetic surgeries/genital plastic surgeries are increasingly popular among young white girls in the West. You might want to give white Western moms the same lecture you’re giving me. Don’t play God unless your house is clean:
https://www.medinstitute.org/2017/09/in-the-news-teen-girls-seek-genital-cosmetic-surgery/

Maegan Burlingame more from our protests in Sierra Leone among women who CELEBRATE this culture (2018). Special thanks to women who volunteer and continue to volunteer to undergo circumcision! Yay!! People like you who know NOTHING about African lifestyle should really just shut up. Seriously. Also, the choice to follow culture is still a choice, genius. Let’s see who has the final say, OK love? Bye now! I’m muting this convo. For more upcoming protests against anti-choice and demeaning anti-circumcision rhetoric, visit fuambaiahmadu.com and visit our events page! This is only the beginning. We will not be treated like children and I don’t have to convince you brainwashed fools of anything. #SaveTheWhiteGirlsFirst #AfricanWomenAreFreeToChoose

Maegan Burlingame no hunny, because we live in a world where people have DIFFERENT perspectives on nature, clothing, food, God, and the HUMAN BODY. So I’m not going to tell African women that in order to love themselves they shouldn’t alter their bodies because you fail to understand that by altering our bodies, this is HOW we show love for ourselves. I know you think everyone sees the world as you do, but believe it or not, the world is DIVERSE! Imagine that! The color red means something different in different cultures, why would body modifications have a universal meaning? African women don’t need to change, you need to accept the world isn’t revolving around your mindset.

Kaylyn Moore stupid, I’ve attached the article where the 9 year old girls had genital surgeries legally. And you will see my other responses to people where I’ve attached articles about risky genital surgeries white teens are getting. Clean your own house, honey. Your culture is just as stupid if mine is. Also, you might want to reread my post. Show me where you see “children” in my post. Dumbass. WOMEN are not the same as CHILDREN. After this, I will mute this conversation so mentally impaired idiots who can’t read like you can talk to yourselves. Are these 9 year olds in YOUR Western culture consenting? Why are the surgeons not ARRESTED AND THROWN IN PRISON, HYPOCRITES?
https://www.bbc.com/news/health-40410459

I’m soooo excited for the new year because my contribution to Ahmadu’s campaign will be to make life-size posters of all my saved images of Western butt implants exploding like fireworks and boob jobs sagging to the point where they could be Mayweather’s punching bags. And I’ll bring all my screenshots of Western doctors butchering white women’s vaginas too. That way, circumcised African women on the ground can pass the pictures around, discuss and show them to hypocritical anti-female circumcision activists who fail to inform African women of these double-standards. BTW anti circumcision activists have always pushed for laws in America/Europe/Africa to prohibit African women from getting circumcised by choice. In Europe and a few African countries, laws are already in place preventing WOMEN and GROWN women could be fined and prosecuted for altering THEIR bodies (in Kenya/Gambia, for example). Consent is only reserved for Western women to these hypocrites. #2019Ready #Goodnight

If other African women tired of being labeled “mutilated” or accused of “mutilating” their daughters are interested in more leisure reading about the legal butchering of the genitals of white non-consenting girls, PLEASE VISIT THE LINK below. As I said, the numbers of butchered white girls are increasing every year and neither Western doctors nor white parents are targeted/arrested for doing this! Again, these procedures pose risks such as pain during urination, swelling, blood loss, blood clots, infections, etc. But it’s done on white CHILDREN without consequences. Read on, ladies!
https://www.medinstitute.org/2017/09/in-the-news-teen-girls-seek-genital-cosmetic-surgery/

http://www.fuambaisiaahmadu.com/

In rural Kenya, traditions run deeper than law on cutting girls
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-kenya-circumcision-widerimage/in-rural-kenya-traditions-run-deeper-than-law-on-cutting-girls-idUSKCN0IW1BK20141112

Sudan: “It Takes More Than a Law to Stop FGM”

http://www.wluml.org/node/4980

“All my daughters have been circumcised,” Asia Abdalla Jibril, a tea-seller, told IRIN in Kadugli, the state capital. “The clitoris is dirty. If you undergo cutting you become clean,” Jibril said. In Sudan, the Arabic word “tahur”, which means purity, is often used for FGM/C. “If a baby is sick, cutting helps,” added Jibril. “For example if a baby has duda [fever] and weight loss, the cut helps the child to grow better and gain weight.” Most girls undergo FGM/C at about six years old in the state.

“It is mainly the ‘grandmothers’ who still want FGM,” said Wahid Eldeen Abed Elrahim, director of the National Council for Child Welfare, an NGO working to monitor and encourage implementation of the Convention on the Rights of the Child.

Sierra Leone: Women politicians reluctant to campaign against FGM
http://www.wluml.org/node/3964

GM still enjoys support in large sections of the community, notably among members of secret “Bondo” societies, made up exclusively of women, which use the practice to initiate girls into womanhood — alongside teaching them various domestic skills.

“They Took Me and Told Me Nothing” Female Genital Mutilation in Iraqi Kurdistan

https://www.hrw.org/sites/default/files/reports/wrd0610webwcover.pdf

While internationally recognized as a form of violence against women and girls, the tragedy is that FGM is perpetuated by mothers, aunts and other women who love and want the best for their children, who see the practice as ensuring that girls are marriageable, are conforming to the tenets of Islam, and are growing up to be respectable and respected members of Kurdish society.

North Caucasus Mufti Endorses Female Genital Mutilation

http://www.rferl.mobi/a/russia-north-caucasus-mufti-femal-genital-mutilation/27925915.html

“I have been circumcised, and my daughters will be circumcised too. This is our custom and tradition!” See how one woman responded to DW’s Jaafar Abdul Karim in the Sudan where 88% of women are genitally mutilated.

https://www.facebook.com/dw.stories/videos/1349429331835468/

Doctor Argues Her Case On Why Female Circumcision Should Be Legalized

https://www.standardmedia.co.ke/health/article/2001348778/how-unethical-groups-minted-millions-from-anti-hiv-male-cut

Tucker: Advocate Of FGM Horrors Exaggerated

https://youtu.be/ob3Wf0PKtBM

so what is your rubric for what is a horrific sexual reduction mutilation?

Is it nerves lost? Pain? Surface area of skin? Worth of either sex? Purpose for the cutting? History of the cutting? Or just plain cultural biases unsupported by science and facts?

Help me understand you.

FGM A visual reference and learning tool for health care professionals on the different types of FGM
https://youtu.be/XRid7jIUzMY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRid7jIUzMY&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRid7jIUzMY&feature=youtu.be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRid7jIUzMY&feature=youtu.be

Two examples of cultural ignorance. One in Somalia. The other in North Dakota. Same biases different culture.
https://youtu.be/wcJNAtn-c6I

Boys and girls alike
An un-consenting child, an unnecessary, invasive surgery: is there any moral difference between male and female circumcision?
https://aeon.co/essays/are-male-and-female-circumcision-morally-equivalent

Are you talking about the nick to draw blood, removal of the clitoral hood, clitorectomy, removal of the labia, or sewing the vaginal hole? Obviously I’m far more educated than you. There are many intelligent, educated, compassionate, moral women who respect my rights as well as I respect their rights. Many women in cutting societies have orgasms even with clitorectomy. Most women who are cut say the same things as cut men. The exact same pseudo science lies are used to justify cutting off parts of a woman. If you compare the most common form of female ‘circumcision’ which is removal of the clitoral hood loses far LESS nerves that Male genital MUTILATION making it WORSE you FUCKING ignorant CUNT!!!!! All people deserve the GOD DAMN RIGHTS TO THEIR OWN MOTHER FUCKING BODY!!!!!!!!

How can YOU PEOPLE BE SO FUCKING DUMB!!!!!!?????? Do you NOT SEE the irony on the FACT that YOU FUCKING IDIOT AMERIKANS chop up baby boys EVERY FUCKING DAY THEN you throw stones at Muslims for an OBVIOUS cultural atrocity that YOU YOURSELVES COMMIT ON YOUR OWN SONS?!?!?!?!? You are IDIOTS ALL OF YOU!!!!!!!

FUCK YOU FOR CUTTING OFF 1/2 of the surface area of MY PENIS and 2/3rds of the nerves yet FREAKIN OUT that some twisted doctor cuts a girl!!!!

Yeah men ALSO appreciate cleaner vagina. You know how nasty that shit gets. Yours is smellier and much more prone to bacterial infections. I think we need to chop off those labia to beautify that nasty mud flap you have hanging down. No guy wants to go down on smelly roast beef with all those smegma filled folds. We also need to get rid of your clitoral hood. Since it is anatomically the exact same as the foreskin all the ignorant bullshit reasons you use for cutting up boys applies directly to you.

Except that your bat cave is even MORE smelly even MORE nasty looking so for sure we need equal rights to beautify and cleanse your nasty CUNT!

So when you get YOURS done THEN you can justify forcing your ignorance on a baby boy you sick low life bimbo.

Female Genital Mutilation is Hideous!!!! Unthinkable!!!!! Perpetrators should be KILLED for their EVIL culture!!! How could people be so brutal, so disgusting!!!! You are VIOLATING the RIGHTS of a helpless little girl!!! You will ROT IN HELL!!!

Oh wait, that’s a boy? I thought we were talking about girls! Hahaha My bad…

In that case CHOP him up!!!! Cut off 1/2 of the surface area of his penis!!!! Cut off 2/3 of his sexual nerves!!!! Torture him without anesthesia!!!! Make him ‘pretty’ for Mommy and society. Toughen the little shit!!!!! Get him ready for the REAL world!!!! Fuck that little infant. Suffer you little piece of shit!!!! Shouldn’t have been born a male in the land of the FREE!!!!!

WHO all about FGM doesn’t give a FUCK about MGM
http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs241/en/

The “Equivalent” Female Circumcision to Male Circumcision

The clitoral hood and labia minora in females has the same embryonic origin as the foreskin in males. Only after a specific stage in the development of the embryo do they take their distinctive forms. In females, the clitoral hood protects the clitoris, in males the foreskin protects the glans
( diagram ). The ‘equivalent’ female circumcision to male circumcision is clitoral hood and/or labia minora removal. If this surgery was done on young girls among people who only circumcise young boys, it may well be that they consider it barbaric, cruel and a sexual violation. Yet, the ‘same’ act done on boys does not trigger any emotions. Removal of the foreskin is actually more severe because the male glans, being more externalized and larger, makes it more prone to abrasion. Male circumcision also destroys correct sexual functionality of the penis.

In parts of Africa, Malaysia and Indonesia as well as other parts of the “Muslim” world, it is normal to circumcise girls and they have ‘justifications’ for it too, just as one may have for male circumcision. Words such as ‘Female Genital Mutilation’ or FGM are used by human rights groups. Male “circumcision” too is now being referred to as ‘Male Genital Mutilation’ or MGM.

You are wrong about FGM and MGM. IT’S THE SAME TISSUE!!!!!!! The majority of MGM is FAR WORSE THEN FGM!!!!! Most FGM is a ritual nick or removal of the clitoral hood. NOT CLITORECTOMY!!!!! I had 50% of the surface area of my penis CUT OFF OF ME!!!!! Out of the 24,000 nerves in MY PENIS I was born with I got to keep 4,000!!!!!! You do the math! How dare we as society protect one group of children BUT NOT THE OTHER!!!!!!!! I have painful intercourse. I have greatly reduced sensitivity as I’ve aged. I’m 40 now. For 40 years my penis which was designed to be an INTERNAL organ has been exposed, keratinized, and scared!!!!!!! When YOU TREAT MY BODY AS VALUABLE AS A WOMANS THEN WE WILL HAVE REAL CHANGE IN THIS SICK BACKWARDS DISGUSTING SOCIETY!!!!!!

I agree! I love my girls tortured, cut up and mutilated for cultural conformity, pseudo science and ignorant natural body shaming. I mean have you seen those nasty mud flaps? All that disgusting roast beef with all it’s bacteria harboring folds of skin. So DISGUSTING!!! I definitely prefer mutilated sliced up vag. Have you smelled those cunts? Get rid of the mud flaps and get some air up there! MUCH cleaner and MUCH better looking! Say no to mud flaps! We want pretty vaginas.

Islamic FGM
Medical benefits of female circumcision
https://islamqa.info/en/45528

Legalize Female Circumcision
Benefits:
Reduces HIV/AIDS
It improves hygene
It improves smell by reducing bacterial count
It looks better by reducing unsightly flaps of skin
To allow male circumcision but not female is sexist
https://youtu.be/9r46b-Lm25s

Cutting off just the hood was what they did in the USA in the 1960s using an instrument with a shield to protect the clitoris (search “circumstitions methods rathmann”) it was legal until 1996. Not even cutting but a ritual prick or nick “much less extensive than neonatal male genital cutting” was what the AAP proposed in 2010, but public outcry made them back down within a month.